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Hi,Username,this is from the official site.It may help you: In the UK press today, there appeared some articles about Phil's physical state, with some slightly misleading headlines. Here, in Phil's own words, are how he describes his situation: ...
October 29
August 21
I think you are correct
July 7
My CD copy has little booklet to speak of, it's pretty limited in terms of packaging. I really like the album, though...I got it at the same time as Tony's solo debut, A Curious Feeling, and was quite taken with them both. Definitely worth purchas...
July 5
It's going for about £5 in the UK at the mo... if you use Amazon or Play. It's not a great album, though.
July 2
June 5
2- Are there any differences between the tracks of the original vinyl record and the CD? yes, I think the tracks on CD and record are presented in a different order. Or rather, I think side 1 on the vinyl is side 2 on the cd. or vice versa. Anyw...
June 1
I don't think there's really any musical link between the tracks. I think the lyrical turn of phrase is a coincidence. Smallcreep is Mike Rutherford's best non-Genesis effort in my book. Probably because I love the extended 'Smallcreeps Day' which...
June 1

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About Me:
"Orange lights and a smoky atmosphere...."

An all-eras fan, but my fav period is the later seventies (Trick to Duke - especially Trick and W&W).
I'm interested on collecting stuff, but I seem to lack the will and the energy to do it ("if not the money"). I know very little on sharing music through the web, (the file formats, the compression, the players) but do I intend to stop being lazy about it and learn and get on with it...... one day, real soon ; ) So far, all I did was to post my wishlist down below - just in case someone notices it.
What I am really interested in though, is the lyrics: the imagination, the obscure references, the mysticism, the romanticism, the witticism, and of course, the humor. As a true anorak, I am also interested in trivia of various degrees of importance - see the box below...
English is not my first language, so please do excuse any eventual mistakes (and, if one could be so kind as to point them out to me, I'll really appreciate it).

Note for in case somebody wonders about my "username":
It goes back in the days of the old YaBB forums, when I didn't felt like thinking too much to choose one. (By big time carelessness and negligence, I managed to miss the free entrance to the new official forum; and, by big time stubborness and cheapness, I managed to stay out). So, since I still had a "nostalgic affection" for the old, yet self-conscious username, I chose to relive it for this great community.
Genesis is:
The greatest band
Length of Genesis fandom:
11-15 years

It's... THE MUSICAL THEME QUOTATIONS DATABASE --x--x--x-- followed by WISHLIST

THE GENESIS MUSICAL THEME QUOTATIONS DATABASE:

------- EARLY YEARS:
- "Twilight Alehouse" comes from a jam based on the interlude between "Fireside Song" and "The Serpent" on FGTR.
- "The Serpent" and "In Hiding" derived, of course, from "She Is Beautiful" an "Patricia" respectively.
- The piano introduction from "The Shepherd" is later used on the insrumental break in "Duchess".
- "The Mick Jackson Tapes" is where "Anyway" (in a piece called "Frustration") and "Salmacis" (in a piece called "Provocation") were created.

------- PETER ERA:
- "Can-Utility" derived, of course, from "Bye, Bye Johnny"

-->; "Supper's Ready":
- The "Lover's Leap" theme is reprised between "GESM" and "I&I&TBofMM", and in the closing of the "Apocalypse in 9/8".
- The interlude between "Willow Farm" and "Ap.9/8" closes with a reprise of the melody in "I know a fireman who looks after the fire".
(I remember somebody pointed that the guitar phrase just before "666 is no..." is also in the same melody of "the fireman". Having listened for this many times, I beleive the person was referring to this above said moment in the song)
- "As Sure as Eggs is Eggs" is in the same melody as "GESM".

(Note: The "Giant Hogweed" printed lyrics end with "--ADVANCE--", "Supper" printed lyrics end with "(Continued)". I don't know if there's any reference between the 2, but, if anything, there it is).

-->; "Selling England":
- "Aisle Of Plenty" quotes "DWTMK" and "Supper" (in the lyrics of "It's scrambled eggs").
- "Firth Of Fifth" instrumental part quotes it's own intro.

-->; "The Lamb":
- "Back in NYC" intro quotes the intro for "In The Cage".
- "The Carpet Crawlers" intro quotes the bridge of "The Lamb Lies Down".
- "Lilywith Lilith" ending quotes "Broadway Melody". "Lilith" comes, of course, from "The Light".
- "The Light Dies Down" quotes both "The Lamia" and "The Lamb Lies Down".
- "In the Rapids" quotes "Ravine" for brief moments right after "...and the rush of crashing water" and "I'm spirilled down the riverbed".

------- PROG (or something like it) PHIL ERA:
-->; "Trick":
- "Los Endos" quotes "It's Yourself", "Dance On A Volcano" and "Squonk". It is also a nod to Peter's departure as it quotes the lyrics to "Supper" and the "Solsbury Hill" lyrical theme of "home": "There's an angel standing in the sun...free to get back home".
- "It's Yourself" original version quotes "Mad Man Moon" on it's last notes.
- "Squonk" quotes "Volcano": the guitar on the background of "All in all you were..." is a variation the "Volcano" riff.

-->; "W&W":
- " '...In that Quiet Earth' " quotes "11th Earl Of Mar" on a few quick moments.
- "Wot Gorilla?" shares some notes with the middle part of "One For The Vine".
- "All In A Mouse's Night" final verse quotes it's own intro.
- "Blood On The Rooftops" quotes "11th Earl": that little melody that goes just before the blasting choruses of "Blood" first appears in the background of "...never seems too keen...".

-->; "...and then there were 3...":
- "Ballad Of Big" final verse quotes it's own intro.
- "The Lady Lies" middle verse ("So glad you could make it...") quotes it's own intro.

?? (Question: I believe someone pointed a sort of quotation somewhere in "Down &Out" for "Wot Gorilla?". I can't remember what was the bit, and I couldn't find any similarities between the two just by listening. Has anybody here found this?) ??

-->; "Duke":
- "Duke's Travels" quotes "Guide Vocal".
- "Duke's End" quotes "Behind The Lines", "Turn it on Again" and "Guide Vocal" again (the final notes are the same as "take what's yours and be damned").

------- POP (or something like it) PHIL ERA:
- On the fade of "Dodo/Lurker" you can hear the beginning of "Submarine".
- "Paperlate" derives itself from the "paper late!" moment on "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight".
- "2nd Home By The Sea" quotes "HBTS".
- The "Congo" riff comes from a certain bit in "Do the Neurotic".
- "On The Shoreline" quotes the "Elephantus" sound from "No Son Of Mine" in it's intro.

?? (Question: I also remember that a certain B-side from "Invisible Touch" shared a very small guitar solo with "Land Of Confusion". I can't recall nor the song nor the moment in "L.O.C.". Anybody?) ??

------- RAY ERA:
- "Congo" final verse quotes it's own intro.
- "Alien Afternoon" 2nd part quotes the intro.

So... Is that it? Are there any others? Perhaps one could make some improvements over the definitions? Just in case you think of something, please post.

--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--

MY WISHLIST
(anybody who has any of those in their possession and would be willing to share, please, do send me a message):
--The rather-tough-to-track tracks:
Going Out to Get You (Rome 18/4/72)
Only Your Love (B-side for unreleased Ant/Phil/Mike single "Silver Song")
Bye, Bye Johnny
-From "ATOTT Outtakes" bootleg:
-Beloved Summer (early version of "It's Yourself"); Indians (early version of Squonk); Los Endos.
Submarine (without the loop)
Nowhere Else to Turn
not to mention the "jackson tapes" which are coming up on the new boxset...

--The not-so-tough-to-track tracks:
It's Yourself (unedited)
Anything Now
Sign Your Life Away
Run Out Of Time
Abacab (long version)
Mama (long version)
It's Gonna Get Better (long version)
Papa He Said
Banjo Man
7/8
Phret
The accoustic versions recorded with Ray Wilson which came out as B-sides back in the day:
Moonlit Knight, FYFM, No Son, Lover's Leap, TIOA

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At 2:18pm on August 21, 2009, Julia Aurea Medici Stein said…
Hehehehe!
They are indeed, ain't them?! :)

Well, I found them looking for "peter gabriel shirt" on google and browsing through a considerable amount of links to find something I actually liked...! lol

When you're interested, you can visist the links yourself:
www.djtees.com - for the Slipperman shirt
www.bathroomwall.co.uk - for the Plays Live shirt

Enjoy! :)
At 3:18pm on April 11, 2009, Julia Aurea Medici Stein said…
Hello there!
Once again, I'm really sorry for having taken so long to respond!
Thank you! I've recently drawn a new picture based on The Fountain Of Salmacis! I have to scan it so that I can upload it here! I'll be doing it soon, I hope!
Thank you for your appreciation, anyway!!

No, I'm totally sure about it!! Your picture IS indeed very very SEXY!! At least for me, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, it is most appealing!!
Oh, so you use it because Peter's wearing the sort of clothes you wear? How nice!
Peter looks gorgeous with this outfit by the way! It fits him very well! And in the pose he is, his shirt seems to be a bit short, what makes it even more appealing!
Hehehehehe! *what can I do? I'm a girl, I can't help it!*
But Peter has a great taste in clothes, he's original, stylish and always looks great!

I agree with you entirely! He's always had a great hair! Even in the present, when he doesn't, it still looks great!

Thank you! I'm really most excited and anxious about it! I've sent the letter with the card a couple of weeks ago, and I just can't wait to get an answer!!! I hope I'll get one anytime, even if it takes long. to come...!
At 3:25pm on March 16, 2009, Julia Aurea Medici Stein said…
Hi there!! :)

Sorry for the delay, but I wanted to thank you for your comment on my birthday card for Peter!! :DD
Yes! I did draw a portrait of you too!
I find that picture of yours just so...Sexy, I guess...! lol
Yeah, it's definitely sexy! ;DD

Oh, and I love that wavy hair of Peter from the 60ies to the 70ies, he had gorgeous hair!! :)
Anyway, thank you very much for the compliment!! :DD

And indeed, it did take me a lot of energy and time to finish it, but it was all worth it! Peter is worth it, of course!! ;DD

Thanks again!!

Have a nice week!! :)
At 12:35pm on February 25, 2009, Sylvain said…
Me again. I uploaded the 'no lyrics' version on my page if you want it. More interesting than really good but still...
At 3:38pm on February 24, 2009, Sylvain said…
Sorry I misread your question. I though you were asking what an outtake was. Anyway, "In the begining" Vol 1 to Vol. 5 are Genesis bootlegs containing mostly studio work from different eras. Really nice stuff.

The "Games without Words" is from a boot of the same name. It's all instrumentals from the "Melt" sessions. Here's a site I found where you can download bootlegs for free. Check for the Genesis ones:

http://vivalesbootlegs.blogspot.com/
At 3:29pm on February 24, 2009, Sylvain said…
Hi Username,

An outtake is an unreleased studio take or song. Studio work. The Beatles Anthology serie was made mostly of studio outtakes. Go at the link below where you can hear a tiny part of that 'Cinema Show' outtake and even buy it. At that stage of creation the band probably had the melody and all but the lyrics were not completed. For you who's interested in the lyrics writing process, it's a must I think. I have it somewhere on a Zipdisk. I have to find it and burn it through a Mac. I'll let you know when I get it.

http://www.legalsounds.com/search?pattern=Cinema+Show&&searchType=Songs&a_aid=46&a_bid=21

Cheers,

Stlvain
At 6:45pm on February 23, 2009, Sylvain said…
Yeah it's compressed. But at least you will have heard it. I found it on the net somewhere last week for free so it's a good coincidence. I was looking for a Cinema Show outtake where Peter sings the melody but not the lyrics, pretty interesting. Both songs feature on the same bootleg "in the Begining Vol. 4", that's why I found "Only your Love".
At 10:20pm on February 22, 2009, Sylvain said…
By the way, did you find Only your Love? I have that if you want it.
At 10:07pm on February 22, 2009, Sylvain said…
Hi Username,

There's really interesting stuff to read here. Thanks for these quotations!

Talk to you soon maybe :)
At 7:52pm on August 4, 2008, Lauren Can't Dance said…
Wow, I'm flattered that you thought of turning to me for an explanation of your dream, lol! Thanks! The best I could find is the symbol for anger, and I used the last definition since it appears to be the most relevant. Hope this helps!

Anger-To dream that others are angry with you, signifies your struggle to regain their lasting favor and friendships.

If you have any other dreams that you want analyzed, you know who to call! Talk to you later! :)
 
 

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